If you only supplement with one thing… According to internist and integrative medicine physician Dr. Greg Plotnikoff, “Vitamin D is crucial for health and far too many people are (unknowingly) deficient in this hormone. This is a true public health concern.”
“Vitamin D replenishment is the single most cost-effective thing we can do in modern medicine. The vitamin D dose doesn’t matter. What matters, and what’s a big deal, is your blood level. And that can only be measured through a blood test. Like with cholesterol levels, you cannot look at somebody and know their numbers.”
Safe and responsible sun exposure is the best way for the body to generate vitamin D, but many choose to supplement no matter what the season, and for good reason.
Health Benefits of Vitamin D
The benefits of adequate vitamin D are aplenty and as we get into the cooler months, it’s a good idea to be mindful of how to maintain sufficient levels, especially considering that D plays a significant role in maintaining the health of our “master gland,” our thyroid.
It’s also critical for immune function, which is another consideration during “cold and flu season,” and for managing autoimmune conditions such as Hashimoto’s (autoimmune hypothyroidism — the most common form of autoimmunity). In short, vitamin D is one of the most potent immune modulators we have.
Despite its name, vitamin D isn’t a vitamin. Or a nutrient. It’s a hormone produced via photolytic reaction from direct sunlight on our skin. Because the body cannot produce any vitamin on its own, vitamin D is considered a hormone because it’s made within the body via photosynthesis […]
About Jill Grunewald
Jill Grunewald, HNC, Functional Medicine Certified Health Coach, and founder of Healthful Elements, is a thyroid health, Hashimoto’s, and alopecia (autoimmune hair loss) specialist and co-author of the #1 best-selling Essential Thyroid Cookbook.
welcome to the whole athlete podcast where we focus on discussing topics to help you become a fat burner optimize health and improve performance in life and sports transform the whole you from the inside out with the holistic method let’s dive in here’s your host Debbie Potts hey everybody I’m Debbie Potts I’m doing new episode audio and video for the whole athlete podcast and today I have guests on the show Lisa markley and Jill Grunewald and we’re going to talk about their new book which I got in the mail likely just in time the thyroid cookbook and we’re gonna talk all about it so welcome you too and thank you guys by the way before we get started and listen on the audio of our podcast version but go to YouTube the whole athlete podcast you can see them and it’s sometimes I think it’s more fun to actually see who you’re listening to so mix it up both so girls how do you know each other and came out with this book this is a big huge project so let’s kind of dive into how this even came about Jill and I met in Kansas City we are both volunteering for a local nonprofit organization promote that provided local agriculture and sustainable farming methods and we just kind of connected over our passion and our love of food and in particular local food and just kind of it all blossomed from there and your background is rdn and MS in what’s your education Lisa yeah I’m a master science and nutrition from best year University and see I mean and then so are the M stands for registered dietitian nutritionist so I got credentialed after I finished my master’s degree program I got credentialed as a registered dietitian and my focus as of late over the last close to a decade now has been focused primarily on the field of culinary nutrition which is really just translating healthy eating to the plate and you know on delicious recipes and doing culinary education and cooking classes good and Jill talked about you we’ve had a few podcasts over the last few years with you so now everyone can see you too but tell us a little bit about your background and how you got into fire ROI cookbook business so my background is actually in architecture you know this was going way back I just turned 248 so back in my 20s in my early thirties and then I had a design and manufacturing business for a while in Seattle and then actually it was when I was a texture firm I was just like tired you know crashing in the afternoon not being able to focus putting on a little bit of weight even though I was going to the gym just something wasn’t right and a friend of mine said hey there’s somebody in the San Juan Islands that you need to go see and I was really intrigued by the herbalism because I believe in you know plants as medicine but this woman comes to find out actually knew a lot about nutrition she gave me a book to read by dr. Barry Sears about blood sugar balancing and I was never the same after that I mean I turned around really quickly and just started reading nutrition books for the fun of it which sounds totally geeky but I was really interested in the topic and people started to see me change and you know people were coming to me for advice and then I wanted a career change so I had actually toys that the idea of staying in Seattle I’m going to back steer but ultimately I went another direction and I graduated in 2006 from nutrition school hmm good and so do you both have you wrote a cookbook about the thyroid how is your personal experience related to that or working with clients over the years how they come about to that we needed a cookbook as this which again half of it is cookbook kind of is so informational to really understand it all so how did this come about to focus on thyroid I said yeah go ahead think so sure yeah I I do have Hashimoto’s I became symptomatic I think it was 2008 when I had it kind of started as a lump in my throat and just really a lot of tenderness and discomfort and I went and had a sonogram or no it was a cat scan down in my throat and I was told that I had thyroiditis and I had elevated antibodies at that time but my TSH levels were normal so it took another four or five years before a doctor actually put me on any sort of thyroid hormone replacement and and over that time and I didn’t realize until you know a few years into having those symptoms that that I was I had all these red flags and then I just kind of woke up one day and was hit in the face with some really severe symptoms and had to start making some serious changes so yeah it’s been quite a journey and there have been some other layers to my illness I have Lyme’s disease and mycotoxin illness which make it a little more challenging to treat the Hashimoto’s and to kind of know like what came first the chicken or the egg he’s like they all kind of affect the immune system and make it so I have to be hyper conscious of things that might flare my immune response and just try to do a lot of things that you know help with stress management and immune support and reducing inflammation in the body but yeah so I’ve had Hashimoto’s for I guess technically since 2008 no and then Jill your background you’ve had your own health issues and have we talked before to share a little bit about that we can dive in the book so I was also diagnosed with Hashimoto’s in 2008 but prior to that you know a long history of disc-like see me as you know like having a difficult time managing my blood sugar and you know once I got educated about how to manage my blood sugar I mean that’s what really turns me around was that foundational piece of things but also I was like really – I still am but like in my 20s and 30s I was really driven and I did a lot of stuff I played hard I worked hard I mean it wasn’t a partier but you know I had a very full life and I think I just really sort of blew some fuses and my adrenals were optimal and you know we know now we now know that sometimes the adrenal imbalances can be one of the triggers for Hashimoto’s not good there are adrenal issues that are underlying Hashimoto’s and educating others about how to manage their motives I started doing this series of online classes called fire your thyroid I haven’t done that in a while but Lisa participated in 2008 and it was her brilliant an idea to create this cookbook she emailed me one night after the last class and said when you’re ready to translate your nutritional recommendations to the place let me know and it was like oh yeah she would be the perfect person to do this with so here we are five years later we finally got her look published a couple weeks ago so yes wanna see videos does called the essential thyroid cookbook kind of nourishing recipes for thriving hypothyroidism and Hashimoto’s so you know as you said you just mentioned and we talked about that in my nutritional therapy practitioner program I took but it’s so interrelated with adrenals so it’s like you know you said you both said you don’t know chicken or the egg what’s first but a lot of times you know we took them out athletes and anyone I think we’re so over like we just all took deep breathing different exercises before we become because we’re all rushing even though we follow this and read this and you guys practice what you preach but we all need to stop pause and resets for gogogo all a day and we’re usually all these type-a people writing books didn’t podcast and seminars so yourself you know do you work on proving your health and when you’re working with people your thyroid and help your drina’s doing meditation and broke that into next why we need to change what we’re eating it’s affected our thyroid but you can kind of talk into that one of you of what you feel like how the adrenals and thyroid play together now the bulb is connected yeah I’ll start so I mean at its core so when we are stressed whether it’s physical mental emotional stress the body is going to produce these stress hormones from the adrenals to help us cope and the more sort of on we are the more our sympathetic nervous system is prompted versus R which is the fight-or-flight response versus the parasympathetic nervous system which is the rest and digest response more we are in that fight-or-flight and the more stress hormones were pumping out not only does it attacks the nervous system but it can also cause a lot of fatigue a lot of people feel wired and tired at the same time like they feel kind of amped up and anxious but they’re also tired and it can slow thyroid function and overproduction of those hormones can actually hinder thyroid function but then you have this negative feedback loop where women the thyroid is under functioning and not making enough thyroid hormone to fuel the body I mean our thyroid hormones affect every cell in our body when we’re under producing those hormones and not getting enough oomph and energy and gusto from our thyroid then we end up making more adrenal hormones to help us cope so there’s this negative feedback loop that happens and that’s why a lot of doctors in the functional medicine community say you’ll never get Hashimoto’s under control without addressing your adrenals and in my practice I mean I’m not a doctor so I can’t diagnose anyone with anything but I do know how to read labs and I always defer to my clients doctor you know like talk to your doctor about this but here’s what I see or I’ll say if these were in my labs here’s how I would interpret them and many some people have been how their adrenals tested but many have and it’s pretty rare that people don’t have some level of adrenal dysfunction you know people who have Hashimoto’s it’s rare that they don’t some but they don’t need some level of adrenal support so I mean I think that’s a big part is that I just hear people we talked another podcast we did a while ago that every client that I have let’s see like let’s see three out of five people are on thyroid medication and that’s why I was love talking to you about this stuff because I think we need to get more of this information out there that all right is it because we have adrenal issues or is it because you have thyroid issues which is it but how do we get better instead of just taking medication forever so is that kind of related to why you felt like this book needs to come out or what’s your passion at least if you want to speak up further yeah so we’re taking a nutritional approach to supporting and optimizing thyroid health and we see it as being one piece of the puzzle of the greater picture you know there are other lifestyle factors like getting stress under control getting sleep habits and sleep hygiene you know optimize to getting adequate sleep every night so that you can handle the stressors throughout the day but the cookbook focuses primarily on the nutritional aspects that can support thyroid health but like I said it’s just one piece of the overall picture I’m not necessarily saying by following our recommendations in the cookbook that you’re gonna cure a review reverse your Hashimoto’s but it’s just one of those things that nutrition is a very new the thyroid is a highly nutrient dependent gland and nutrition is an overlooked tool to help support thyroid health and in the book we go into how various nutrients can do that in terms of producing the thyroid hormone we need certain minerals like iodine and then the amino acid tyrosine even to form thyroid hormone and then we need certain nutrients to make the conversion from our inactive form of thyroid hormone to it’s more active form so there’s a lot of places that nutrition plays a role and that’s why we kind of got really passionate about wanting to put all these put it all together in a book so that it could make it easy for people to understand okay well why is nutrition important and then from that how do I take what I know about nutrition and apply it in the kitchen what are the good food sources of these nutrients that support thyroid health and how do I make them taste good and in a way that doesn’t take you know hours and hours and hours are too much time in the kitchen yeah I think that you know a great point you made in the book that it was the beginning of it that it’s not another paleo or autoimmune protocol you were making it it’s different how is it different Jill from another another paleo book that cuz as people say it’s IRA it or any autoimmune issues Hashimoto’s is that you have to do paleo and how’s your book and your recipes in here different than another paleo or autoimmune protocol the short story is that some of our recipes contain grains and legumes that’s the short story and Lisa did an amazing job of writing adaptations for the recipes that could be adapted so you’ve probably seen this almost every recipe has not only welcome icons for positive things making them paleo more so in the bottom page this part yeah and there’s a guy at the I mean all that is explained in detail educational component but also there’s a condensed sort of guide to the recipes at the first part of that section of the software it’s just an addict Linus here’s how to use these icons but um you know I was diagnosed with Hachi mamonas back in 2008 and that was before paleo and AIT became really popular so I didn’t know that I was supposed to go grain and legume free I certainly worked hard on my digestive system and you know healing that good because we know that 70 to 80 percent of the immune system is in the gut frankly I just didn’t know better and even if I had known better I would have been I don’t know I don’t want my dad to be that restrictive and I think that there’s more than one way to do things and so I was able to get my Hashimoto’s under control by focusing on the gut healing but I was still eating moderate amounts of grains and legumes so as my coaching practice grew and grew and I was getting more and more Hashimoto’s clients I didn’t ask them to do anything differently than what I had done then I mean there’s also there’s always some first civilization to it everyone’s violent individual so there’s always you know unique experiences and circumstances but as time went on paleo got really popular and then autoimmune paleo and I I call them refugees I get a lot of them as refugees as clients people who’ve done paleo or AIG and I’m I don’t want to say it’s not a good approach that’s and I outline that in detail in the books I’m not dismissing those approaches I just don’t think it’s a one size fits all for everybody and for a lot of people especially the people who are like weaning themselves off as a standard American diet to ask them to go from fast-food and sofa and you know donuts and pizza to an autoimmune Paleo diet it’s a shock for them and it causes a lot of it’s a major lifestyle overhaul and it can be really stressful for people and we have the science that shows us that any type of stress because of a mental or emotional not only is it gonna cause some adrenal imbalances but we know that stress increases autoantibodies so you have this person who’s so stressed out about going on such a restricted diet that it’s kind of like you know of two steps forward two steps back situation so I see what we can do without making things so restricted and frankly I mean largely based on the research of dr. Eric Sohn member I’m sorry what’s his first name I’m sorry Erica he wrote the good gut he’s the stainless Sonnenberg last name can’t I’ve heard of him but anyway him in the book and he’s done some real he and his wife have done some really good research about how properly prepared grains and legumes can actually an efficiently provide or the digestive environment so we’ve had this like way of like paleo and AIP which again I’m not here to discount it we’ve also got this research that shows us that if they’re eaten in moderation and prepared properly they benefit the microbiome so a lot of people have asked us well what is your thyroid diet or what is your Hashimoto’s diet like what kind of diet are you promoting in this cookbook and we’re like we’re not we’re not promoting a diet yeah we’ve tried to meet people where they are and provide adaptation so that many people can benefit from the cookbook love that yeah that’s why I think I try to explain and our different episodes that I’m not an advocate of keto diet I like I’m interested in talking about it who that diet or I hate the word diet what eating plan is appropriate for that person and as a nutritional therapy practitioner we talked about you know the foundations is everyone’s final individual as you said and nutrient and nutrient dense Whole Foods diet is ideal and what ratio is different for everyone based on like you’re saying gut health of balancing your blood sugar and adrenals and whatnot but I like how you said in your book in one chapter that low carb diet high fat isn’t ideal for people with adrenal or thyroid issues can’t talk a little bit about that research l.joe i’ll default to you since you wrote that chapter yeah so i’m i’ve never been a fan of low carb ever i’m not a fan of high carb i’m not a fan of carb loading necessarily and you know just to make it clear I’m not very knowledgeable about nutrition for athletes but um I’ve worked with a lot of athletes I’ve worked with you know marathon runners and triathletes and even Ironman athletes and there’s this push poll that can happen in that community I mean if they’ve been diagnosed with Hashimoto’s so some of them will say well you know I’ve been training for so long and I’ve been slim and trim for so long and now I’m putting on some weight and I’m experiencing some fatigue and I’m not enjoying my workouts as much as I used to and I’ve been diagnosed with Hashimoto’s but they want to be low carb to keep their weight down and that’s another push-pull scenario because the body is it actually I mean low carbs can be almost it can be detrimental for people who have hypothyroidism and Hashimoto’s if you’re not getting enough glucose from your carbohydrates you can be you can have a harder time thermo regulating people can be you know cold and have a harder time getting warm for people who are prone to hair loss like me and a very long history of pretty severe hair loss and you know hair loss is one of the hallmark symptoms of Hashimoto’s and hypothyroidism a lot of people that get diagnosed because they’re losing so much hair and although it’s been shown that a low-carb diet can actually contribute to hair loss so I I’m not anti keto either I know that the ketogenic diet can be very beneficial for like the cancer community but we it just goes back to that thing that everyone is unique and everyone has different circumstances and you know it’s like what is the person who has a history of cancer and Hashimoto’s what do they do and I think there’s a place where those people can you know find some common ground between the ketogenic diet which is high fat but also incorporate some healthy carbohydrates and I understand that if you’re getting carbohydrates then you’re not in ketosis but you can still benefit from those healthy fats and I’ve worked with a lot of athletes who I’ve asked to eat a few more carbohydrates and they they feel better and they say I’m performing better again like my has actually improved since I started eating a few more carbohydrates yep and that’s why I find like you’re all saying the same thing we are almost saying the same thing it’s bile individuals so everybody’s different that’s why I think you need to work with someone as yourselves and myself that we’re not just gonna give you the same food plan for everyone because everyone’s gonna respond differently and if there’s so many things that are interconnected as your gut health your talk about – I just have this like the lifestyle habits we talk about the holistic method manual that will hopefully come out soon that you know it’s just stress in the sleep and all that as well as a gut digestion system so Lisa let’s talk a little bit you grow all the recipes or is that your side and Jill did more the first half the book or how do you guys yeah so I I wrote the recipes with the exception of three that we have a few guest contributors so there’s over a hundred recipes in the book and they’re all based on Whole Foods very nutrient-dense ingredients did you have a question flourless almond butter chocolate chip cookies sound yummy they’re really delicious that the base of those cookies is almond butter and then you’ll see in some of the sweets and treats that we don’t use any refined sweeteners so there’s there’s no white sugar but we do use well sweetened with small amounts of maple syrup or honey or maybe a granulated natural sweetener like coconut sugar so I mean there still is some sugar in the cookbook and the body’s gonna metabolize similarly to white sugar but the flavor profile of some of these natural sweeteners is so much more robust that when I formulated the recipes I was able to use less and and maybe use some pureed fruit like matched banana and a few of the recipes so that you’re getting the whole food you’re getting the fiber and some of the other phytonutrients and that food to help with the carbohydrate metabolism and you it is all gluten free and dairy free so you found for sure gluten free we also for thyroid you need to do that but dairy free you found for Zoid clients just keep out dairy no beer as well to start it’s a good idea to try to identify what inflammatory triggers might be a problem for for you know individuals who might be dealing with Hashimoto’s we have a chapter in the book that Jill wrote about gluten and the thyroid as well as about dairy and the thyroid and it talks more in detail about that but the situation with gluten is that being that more than 90 percent of hypothyroidism in the United States is Hashimoto’s which is the autoimmune form of hypothyroidism the body is producing antibodies against the thyroid tissue and causing that damage to occur so that the thyroid is then compromised in its ability to produce adequate thyroid hormone with so the goal is to try to do things to reduce the body’s production of antibodies and so in the book we’ve talked about things that reduce inflammation and reduce some of that autoimmune response and one of the things that can do that is eliminating gluten from the diet because gluten is seen as something similar to the thyroid tissue there’s molecular mimicry that occurs that the body recognizes gluten as or maybe I’m saying backwards when the body has gluten in the diet it produces more antibodies and those antibodies can attack the thyroid so I don’t know if you have anything to add to that Jill that’s in your chapter on gluten in the thyroid yes you’re let’s just say the first half of the book is a lot of information so you’re educating people that well you might have SCI rate because they make some find their symptoms like oh that’s me but you’re also explaining a lot of mutually how to help that and you talked about in your book about the dairy and the gluten so Jill I can jump in and go into that but kind of maybe add into what Lisa’s mentioning to kind of talk a little bit what is the purpose and your goal of the first half of book is there’s so much two books in one so much valuable information it is at least I explained it beautifully I mean I always tell my clients and I always say and like interviews like this or I’m writing a blog post that I’m not really black and white about food a nutrition as was probably demonstrated in my explanation about why it’s not another paleo or a cookbook I just don’t think you can take a black-on-white approach to things um having said that I do i cicada black and white approach to gluten and Hashimoto’s and now there’s more evidence coming out that no matter what type of autoimmunity you have you know there’s 90 different types that gluten is not a good thing to consume it can antagonize the immune system but at least I said it beautifully it’s there is this vile molecular mimicry phenomena where the molecular structure of gluten oddly is very similar to the molecular structure of thyroid tissue so when we people who have matcha Meadows eat gluten it can up the ante on Hashimoto’s when it comes to Dairy I’m less black-and-white about that but there’s some good evidence out there that 50% of people whose have Hashimoto’s interpret the case ian’s protein fraction of dairies similarly to gluten so that’s it’s a pretty substantive percent addition what’s half of the Hashimoto’s population so I think Lisa and I certainly did the right thing and making this cookbook dairy-free but having said that it’s not that everybody who has Hashimoto’s needs to be gluten free you know and that’s for them to determine with their doctor or their practitioner or just through a simple elimination where you wipe out all dairy products for 3 weeks and then you take one day of a provocation and you have you know a significant amount of dairy on that one day and then you monitor for two to three days and see how you feel that’s the goal standard for sleuthing out of food sensitivity it’s not out at blood tests it’s your body reacting to having had a 21-day break from a particular food and then having a one-day reintroduction for publication and then monitoring so that’s what I encourage my clients to do not only with dairy but several foods and that’s all outlined in the book to you but to your question or your comment about how it’s two books and one when we started out on this journey I mean first of all you know this was it was least as a brilliant idea to create this cookbook and it was like a big slap on the head you know my forehead for me because I was like this doesn’t exist like there’s not there’s millions of people with hypothyroidism in hush there’s not a good cookbook and what I said to Lisa at that time was I know that you’re gonna create killer recipes like there’s no doubt about that I had eaten Lisa’s foods you know many times before that and I knew that the recipes would be stellar but I said to her I don’t want this to be another cookbook like I want people to know that these recipes arts I word enemy and supportive so at the very beginning of this journey we spent a tremendous amount of time sleuthing out the most irate supportive nutrition and immune support of nutrition where that overlaps and then we created a ranking system we had this really geeked out spreadsheet of those nutrients and then we created a ranking system for foods high in those nutrients not just mediocre sources of those nutrients but high sources and we had all these different you know databases that we were researching as we created our own ranking system and then each so the food the ingredients had to be you know we we created this list of ingredients that Lisa ultimately took and created these recipes from but also these recipe had to have a certain number a certain nutrient profile to make it to the cookbook so people don’t have to read the first part of it I hope they do yeah I want it to be there in people not geek out on iodine they may not geek out on b12 but we wanted people to know that this was really well researched and we didn’t just pull these recipes in there no I think it’s a great thing personally I always love obviously to learn more and continue learning and to understand if you have thyroid issues that why the why I was want to know more like oh why shouldn’t I eat that and if you want to actually feel better from the inside out it’s how you eat and to understand why I think it was people more motivation to eat that way and follow recipes which you know a lot of them are 30 minutes or less it looks like to make which is you know I’m the 10-minute cook kind of person but it is very well laid out and you have pictures which I always have to have pictures and they’re cookbooks my husband’s not a chef but if I cook I need picture and lots of simple steps but you guys did an excellent job writing this and how long did it take you to come up with these step 5 years to finally get this out or just from the original thought how long did it take to put all this information together well it took from the start of the idea to actually be publishing it almost five years but you have to understand that both Jill and I are we both have full-time jobs and full-time families as well and and we were building this kind of from the ground up meaning we didn’t we we self-published or we kind of went a unique route in determining how we were doing this and we worked directly with the food stylist in the photographer and you know beautiful you went up to where we had the book printed in Minnesota and got to see we got to see how the book is put together so we did everything kind of with almost like a grassroots approach in a way where we we’re learning about how to do all this as we went and with that it take there was a learning curve and some time that it took but we’re very proud of the end result and excited that people can now buy it so good la finish up we’re running out of time already but the cookbook itself where should people find are where are they able to find it there’s a lot of information on our website which is WWII Oh calm and then if they do forward slash store or just go to thyroid cookbook calm slash store sto re there’s a wealth of information about about us about the cookbook itself you can even download a sample of the cookbook that’s got a few recipes and a few sample chapters so you can see our writing style and just kind of how our approach to thyroid health and love it’s a lot of work girls good job you’re gonna be in Costco soon signing books and in food demos so and you’re gonna Jill what was that book you know how to challenging it can be it’s a lot but recipes to like you know even was trying to do some recipes my holistic method manual the workbook park and I’m okay you know I didn’t do all exactly you have to do exact measurements and you have to the pictures and you have a lot of work to do and a recipe cookbook as well as you know the information the research and all the references you have to put in the first half so I commend you two for putting this together and working with another person can be a lot of work coordinating schedules so good job and congratulations you may end and then individual if people want coaching what is your website to get a hold of each of you so we’re both featured on the healthful elements website so that’s my longtime practice and then you know Lisa now has a profile on there so it’s healthful elements calms HEA LTH a lot of people think I say helpful like Pete health help all elements calm okay alright Lisa yeah well I just had a baby six weeks ago so I’m kind of checked out other than working on cookbook stuff right now yeah that’s a lies that your first child no I have a I have a son and a daughter now my six weeks ago two kids Jason yeah I don’t have any children so I don’t know how people do a full-time business and write a book and have a family to take care of to make sure you do your deep breathing reset more often say keep practicing what you preach right so thanks girls for coming on the show today and make sure you guys go to YouTube the whole athlete podcast to find the video version or the audio versions on iTunes or other podcasts audio versions you can find on the Android phone too so thanks girls we’ll talk to you soon love to lots more to dive into this book there’s so much into it make sure you guys go get it cuz I know everyone’s got fire word issues I know thanks for listening to the whole athlete podcast if you have any questions feedback or topic suggestions let us know on Facebook or at whole athlete podcast comm you can help us continue and grow by leaving a review on iTunes thanks again and see you next time [Music]
- The Essential Thyroid Cookbook will support you for a lifetime of peak thyroid function and immune health. Listen as Lisa Markley and Jill Grunewald share the story of their journey, along with their expert knowledge on thyroid and adrenal health.
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